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Adoley: Hello and welcome to everyone. This is Adoley Odunton of Healthier Living and I want to welcome you to The Wellness Revolution.

Our focus this season is on embracing wholeness. And what we’ve planned this season is not only some of the finest interviews with amazing guests like David Wolfe, our guest tonight, to assist you in embracing your wholeness, your recognition that health is your divine birthright and there are natural ways in which you can achieve not just good health but great health, optimum health and really create the life that you want and deserve to have.

I am so excited to have David Wolfe here tonight. For those of you who don’t know David, and personally I think David, for many of us, he’s a household name. But he really deserves to be a household name because of the work that he is doing. He’s considered one of the world’s top authorities on natural health, beauty, nutrition, herbalism, organic super foods and one of my favorite things, chocolate.

He is a leader in the field because of his vision and his mission, his incredible ability to educate and also his incredible business skills. David has achieved rock star status in this field. And he really is someone who is an inspiration to a lot of us and he’s helped people to take charge of their health and their life. And his commitment is really to help us to be healthy at an amazing level.

I don’t know if any of you read the blog that David put out recently because I follow David, I love his work. But he did a blog recently which for those of you that don’t know him, I think really says a lot about who he is and what he has dedicated his life to for the last 20 years. So I really want to encourage you to take the time to go to David’s blog.

And what he wrote about was, he wrote about what true wealth was and he started it off and said, “Why I am not a millionaire.” Well when I got that, of course, it caught my eye but truthfully one of the things that I said to myself is, “Oh, I thought David was a millionaire. He’s absolutely- I mean he’s been doing this work forever, he’s incredible, he does amazing work, he’s owned multi-million dollar companies.” If you ever go and see him at the Longevity Conference and by the time this evening ends, I hope that many of you will go to the Longevity Conference that is happening in Los Angeles in February and we will give you the tickets so that you can do that.

David is just someone who packs rooms. 1200 people go to his events and it’s absolutely packed. And it’s just extraordinary. And in this blog, which I will put the link in my email, but it was in the This is what he said. And I have to say I truly was so blown away because this is a man who’s driven by mission. He says, “True wealth is a peaceful state of mind.”

True wealth is abundant physical health. True wealth is spiritual connection to source energy. True wealth is emotional wellness. True wealth is found in serving others. True wealth is knowledge of one’s self, knowledge of one’s environment and finding and following your mission in life. In addition, true wealth cannot be hoarded, only shared. True wealth is not created by what one has acquired but by what one gives away. And true wealth or happiness in one’s self is directly proportional to the happiness one brings to others.”

Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to introduce you to David “Avocado” Wolfe. This is who he is. The work he does is extraordinary and we’re honored to have him here with us for an hour.

David: Thank you so much Adoley. That was an amazing introduction.

Adoley: Well it says everything I feel about you and it’s absolutely true. Alright, now I know everybody wants to hear you give us masses of amazing information. And your topic tonight is Super Foods to boost your immune system, your adrenals and thyroid function.

And when I was discussing this topic I realized, you know truthfully, I could have picked anything because David is such a mine of information about so many things. But we absolutely live in a time where there are so many immune disorders and there is such an epidemic of people who are dealing with stress and adrenal fatigue, thyroid dysfunction, that this is a great topic and I know that you have a wealth of information of super foods that we can begin to incorporate into our lives right now that will make a huge difference. And let’s face it, inflammation, chronic inflammation has been really found to be at the root of so many conditions and diseases. So I think this is a great topic for us, David.

David: I agree. I love this topic actually. I think it’s so pertinent to our times and it’s absolutely critical in the work that I do. My work is about educating people on what our food choices really can be, what’s possible and opening up the possibilities so that we can see that there’s much more out there then the conventional fare or the food pyramid that we’ve been sold in the past.

Adoley: Great. So let’s just jump right in there and let’s talk about the depleted immune systems that we have and what are some of the immediate changes; if you had to just tell everybody on the call today an immediate change that they could make that would make a radical difference in terms of their immune system, and I know there are many. But I wonder where you would start.

David: Actually the most immediate and simplest thing you can do instantly is get grounded. Get connected back to the earth. And in the middle of winter which is where we’re at right now, for most of us who are on this call right now in the Northern hemisphere, that doesn’t happen a lot in the winter and that causes static electricity to build up in our house, to build up on our bodies and that actually disables our immune system.

There is a connection between the production of static electricity; you know that feeling around November when the atmosphere dries out in the northern hemisphere and you start getting sparks and shocks when you touch metal objects? That is actually a symptom that there’s going to be trouble with our immune system. Because static electricity breaks down our immune system and static electricity is pushed off of us immediately when we just go out and we touch a tree, we touch the ground, we go walk on the beach, we go walk on a grass lawn or go walk in a park barefoot. So that’s the number one thing I want to put out there.

Even though it sounds so obvious and so simple, there’s a huge amount of research over the last eleven years, actually eleven major studies that have indicated that this thing of not touching the earth, wearing shoes all the time, being in houses all the time, being on the second story of a house all the time, being in offices all the time has a huge effect on our immune system and we’ve got to touch the earth to discharge that static electricity and get our immune system charged up with the negative electricity of the earth instead of the static electricity of the atmosphere which is a positive charge.

Adoley: One of the things that you do at your conferences, which I think really is such a powerful experience for people is that you ground everybody, don’t you?

David: That’s right. And this is what we learned. Every one of us, every morning, we get into a shower. All of a sudden we have great ideas, everything’s clear all of a sudden what we were meditating on for 24 hours suddenly becomes crystal clear, we know what we’re going to do, we have the idea fresh in our mind. It’s because we’re grounded. That’s what’s been figured out. When you’re in a shower you’re electrically grounded to the earth because the pipes and the water are connected right into the earth. So there’s an electrical current that comes up through those pipes and hits you and rains down negatively charged electricity on you or negative ions. You’ve probably heard that before.

And you can get these ideas all the time if you’re grounded all the time. And that’s why we ground people in our audiences because we want to keep them in that fresh state of mind just like they have when they’re in the shower in the morning.

Adoley: And through David I learned about grounding a couple of years ago and Clint Ober who was the one that did this amazing research in his book Earthing who, again, David was the person who introduced me to him. Clint will be on our show and he will expand on this topic. But that’s one immediate thing that we can do.

So let’s talk about some of the other things that we can do to deal with this issue of chronic inflammation and why is inflammation such a problem? And what is your sense of why it’s so rampant?

David: Well I think it’s a number of factors. I mean when we think of inflammation, at least I think of irritation. I think of the irritation of the stress, I think of the irritation of all the chemicals in our environment which I think you’ve heard me say this before, Adoley, but it’s 77,000 chemicals that we’ve introduced into the environment since 1940 as a member of the human race. We’ve got to now start looking at what the impact of this is.

Adoley: Right.

David: And part of it is irritating us; it irritates our system, it disables our immune system, carcinogens can trigger off mutation of cells. So that’s part of it. And then part of it is dehydration. You know water is the great anti-inflammatory agent of all. So drinking more water would be my next statement as to what would be the best thing to do, second behind grounding ourselves to fight inflammation or inflamaging and to actually help boost our immune system.

Adoley: Well I’m going to ask the next question because all waters aren’t equal. So if we have all this information about our water, what do you recommend? What is the best source of water in the research that you’ve done?

David: I’m very biased in this area because I’m a spring water hunter. I’m probably one of the leading spring water hunters in the world. I travel all over the world and I go to wild springs in Australia, I go to wild springs in Asia, in Indonesia, all across North America, Central America, South America. I’ve been to wild springs all over the world. I mean I’ve been recently looking at wild springs in Antarctica. I mean that’s how far into this thing I am.

Spring water that comes out of the earth, fresh from the earth and when you find a great source of spring water that comes right out of the earth in your local area and you find out that it’s free of contaminants, it’s a 0- 0-0 on everything in bacteria. You can have these things tested for just a few hundred dollars if you want to. Usually someone else has done the work for you. You have free water forever and you have the most pure original perfect water that mother earth produced for you forever. And that’s the power of finding a local spring in your area.

So I only drink spring water. I’ve got spring water with me right now from Mount Tam just north of the Golden Gate Bridge that I harvested about a week ago. And this water’s fed every ship going out of San Francisco harbor for 400 years. I mean what a history, how amazing.

That’s what I’m into Adoley. I’m not into tap water. I’m not into tap water filters. I definitely believe you’ve got to have filters in your house for sure but I’m really into spring water.

Adoley: What about reverse osmosis?

David: Well reverse osmosis is deader than a doornail. It’s dead, really dead. It will kill your plants faster than any other type of water, by the way. Distilled water is a lot better in terms of its health giving qualities then reverse osmosis.

Now having said that, let’s say you’re in a situation, you’re like look, we got reverse osmosis hooked up in our house, you must put something back to that water that’s living in order to give it a pattern. For example squeeze a lemon into it or put a blade of wheat grass into it or something. But for me personally I’m not just into water that’s going to help us survive. I’m into water that’s going to help us thrive and that is spiritual, that connects us with our environment so we can understand where water comes from and the cycle of water and the health giving qualities of water. And that comes from spring water.

Adoley: And in our local communities, are there any places where we can go to get the research on the water and where they are and getting it tested? Any suggestions about that?

David: Absolutely. Every town in America has a facility that tests well water. So what you do usually you go to one of those facilities and you say what do I need to do? They give you three little vials, so you go to your local spring until you’ve found a spring, you’re on the internet, you’ve found out there’s a spring down the road from your house that people are drinking from. You fill those three vials, you take it back to the well water testing place and you let them run their tests on it.

Now if you live in Ohio or a place where there’s a lot of pesticide runoff that gets in to spring water, you may have to go elsewhere to get your water and definitely you want to test it. It may be clean, it may not be. But I you’re in a place like the Rocky Mountains, if you’re in Western Canada, if you’re in the blue mountains of Australia, you won’t have those problems. But you can still test it anyway. I recommend that you make sure that you feel comfortable and settled with the water that you’re drinking. And if testing it gives you that feeling of safety, for a few hundred dollars it’s a good investment. Plus you can tell everyone what you found out.

Adoley: Great. Okay so let’s go on to number three. So we’ve got grounding for free, finding out about our water and getting spring water and then let’s start talking about vitamins and super foods and all the amazing knowledge that you’ve accumulated from traveling all over the world and really doing this research.

David: Okay well I’m really, I guess, bias towards food. I’d rather get my nutrients from food then say vitamin and mineral supplements. I think vitamin and mineral supplements can be very beneficial for folks but I’ve very partial towards food. And that’s what led me eventually to the super food category which are things like raw chocolate and goji berries and Maca and the micro-algae, the super algae like spirulina and blue- green algae and chlorella and marine phytoplankton. And what these are are foundational. These are raw materials for building blood, for rebuilding tissue, for rebuilding nerve pathways, for building up muscle, for tearing down and breaking down dead cells. These are the raw materials.

And then what happens is you take another category of super foods which we call tonic herbs or even super herbs like reishi mushroom, then you’ve got a really powerful one-two punch. Like if you take, for example, an AFA blue-green algae with reishi mushroom, AFA blue- green algae helps to drive stem cells into your blood.

Reishi mushroom shows up, which is by the way the most well-studied herb in the history of the world and takes those stem cells and cuts them up into white blood cells so all of a sudden you have an immunological powerhouse behind you. All of a sudden you have weaponry, you have an arsenal of materials. This is the education that I’ve been putting out there is taking these kind of super foods or super herbs or whatever we want to call them and not making them so foreign, exotic but really just making them part of your everyday food. And if you do that, if you get to that point where it’s part of your everyday food, within a couple of years your whole immunological picture is completely different; you’re a different person.

I had a friend of mine on the phone the other day. He lost over a hundred pounds, actually I think it was about 150 pounds and he’s been with me for years. And people ask him all the time, you know, what’s the difference? And I finally asked him that question. Like what is the difference between before and now? He said, “Well it’s just immunological. I just feel like I’m not susceptible to stuff anymore.”

And that’s the message I want to put out there. It’s a preventative message. If we’ve been paying attention to cancer and all these other conditions we’re finding more and more it has a lot to do with our immune system. So let’s build an immune arsenal so we become immune to all these problems and we’re not worried about them anymore. And these super foods that I just named and the medicinal mushrooms like reishi, which is another category of super foods or super herbs, play a huge role in all of that.

Adoley: One of the things that you talk about- because I find that every single time I’m exposed to you and every time I go to Longevity I’m just taken to this new level and I learn something new and I incorporate it into my life, and certainly being introduced to mushrooms and chaga mushrooms and reishi. But one of the things you talked about was the host defense and you talked about combining the mushrooms and taking them.

And I know that sometimes when people are hearing all of this it can feel like, “Oh my god, how am I going to do this?” So one of the things about David is that his Longevity Now program, which is his signature program, really teaches you how to- we’re hearing all these amazing things and then how can integrate it into my life in an easy way? And you actually show us how to do that, right?

David: That’s been my whole life’s work is taking exotic information, chunking it down to its simplest bits. Like okay great, reishi mushroom extracts do XYZ, how do we get those reishi mushrooms in a form that’s easy to eat, that kids can eat, that everybody likes that will do the trick in our body so we don’t even have to know the science, we can just eat the stuff and we know that we’re getting the benefit. That’s been my work throughout my whole life. So I try to make it as easy as possible always.

Adoley: Great, okay. So let’s talk about some more of these super foods and things that people may not know that you’re really into or have added into your own regimen that is really making a difference in terms of rebuilding that immune system.

David: I am a huge fan of aloe vera and I am a huge fan of noni fruit, which are very similar chemically. They’re basically, in herbalism they’d be called demulcents which means they have gelling compounds in them. So if you’ve ever played around with fresh, raw aloe vera it’s got all that jelly kind of stuff in there. This is a very powerful immunological substance. Not only is it healing of all your skin cells inside your body and out. So we have skin cells that cover our entire digestive tract and all our intestines and aloe vera heals all of that. So does noni. But those gels have very powerful antiviral and antifungal components that can help to heal us of digestive infections; they can help to heal us of fungal infections. And these are substances that have been very well studied over the years because they’ve had strong efficacy over so long.

In fact, in Asia aloe vera is an absolute phenomenon. Like in Korea, an absolute phenomenon. And there’s millions and millions of aloe vera plants being grown and being used in all different kinds of products just coming out of Korea, just that nation, let alone everywhere else.

And noni is- I’m a noni farmer because we have a farm in Hawaii where we grow noni. Noni is something we may have heard about noni juice before.

Adoley: Exactly.

David: We’ve heard that, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Noni juice is like a noni vinegar. It’s like if you let the stuff rot then that’s what you get for noni juice. I’m talking about the fresh fruit. And if you can’t get the fresh fruit-

Adoley: Where would you get it? I mean is noni juice- I mean where am I going to get noni fruit?

David: If you’re in Puerto Rico, it’s there. If you’re in Hawaii, it’s there. If you’re in Indonesia it’s around. If you’re in the tropics basically it’s around. If you’re in Costa Rica, it’s there. I was in the Amazon; they had noni in the Amazon. Which is new in production but it’s such a powerful healing plant it made its way there.

Now if you try to eat noni like biting into an apple, it’s awful. I mean it’s just the worst thing ever.

Adoley: Really?

David: Really. Oh my god, it’s terrible. But you have to pay to play I guess. Some of these things don’t taste that great but you can work with it. The way you work with noni is you throw a bunch in a blender. If you have fresh stuff, you know, if you have the powder it’s easier to work with and it still has the magic. The powder you can just throw it into orange juice and drink it and be done. That’s easy. But if you have the fresh fruit you have to blend it into say orange juice or coconut water and then strain out the seeds and then drink that which is fine, it actually tastes very good.

Adoley: Okay but I don’t even know, is noni something that you could find in a Whole Foods or in Erewhon?

David: In Erewhon yes. Erewhon, for those of you who don’t know, is a super health food store in Los Angeles, probably the greatest health food store in the world. But Whole Goods isn’t on to the noni train yet. Although you might be able to find encapsulated noni powder or you might be able to find noni fruit leathers, which are amazing. You remember those- remember we had fruit leathers when we were a kid, like fruit rollups.

Adoley: Yeah, absolutely.

David: So somebody got smart and said, “Hey, how about we take the most powerful healing fruit in the world, noni, and make a fruit rollup out of it.” And those are pretty fun actually.

Adoley: Okay. So in terms of noni, the juices which we’ve all sort of had that offered to us, would you recommend that we get the powder form rather than the juice?

David: Yes, definitely.

Adoley: Okay.

David: Yeah, we did the original research on that because the noni juice is great and it’s fun but it’s not really going to do what you want it to do and what’s been promised to us. But there is something in noni that will do it. And we got to work to figure out how are we going to get noni fruit out to the people because the USDA won’t allow you to ship fresh noni out of Hawaii. So we’re figuring out, what are we going to do here?

Adoley: Yeah really.

David: So we went to work to see if there is a way. And you know we arrived at the noni fruit rollup idea, that’s a really amazing idea. And then noni powder does the trick. It has the magic.

Adoley: Alright. Now let’s talk about- you talked about aloe vera but what form do I buy my aloe vera in and what’s the best way to take it? Are all aloe veras equal? Probably not.

David: No, they’re not. And there are some good products out there, Adoley, that are bottled aloe vera products. However I have to say this because I’m kind of an aloe vera fanatic: There’s nothing like the fresh stuff. There’s nothing like it. You can’t buy anything in a bottle that equals the fresh.

There is an enzymatic factor, this is the whole thing about live food. When you have an unpasteurized, natural raw food, there’s an enzyme factor that’s there that’s there’s a certain factor that’s lost when you bottle it. And that particular factor with aloe vera is an antifungal enzyme. So if you have fresh aloe vera, meaning you go to Erewhon, for example, they have fresh aloe vera leaves there and you filet off the skin and you get the gel out and blend that into orange juice or blend that into your smoothie or blend it into whatever you’re drinking or blend it into a salad dressing or whatever, you can even blend it into chocolate actually works pretty well, you get the deeper level of the magic and the healing.

Adoley: Great. Okay that’s wonderful. So you do the natural thing. Oh someone sent in a question because they live in New York. And they’re saying, “Well what sort of water can we get?” But there are presumably areas outside New York where they can get spring water?

David: Right. There are incredible springs all around New York. In fact there is a spring actually in Staten Island. I don’t know, Staten Island is a little bit too much in the middle of the action for me to drink the water from, but there is a spring actually naturally in Staten Island. There were somewhere around 20 different springs in Manhattan originally and they’ve all been capped over. In fact there was a huge one that was right at the- it’s currently a hospital in Harlem actually and it’s on 132nd Street. It’s underneath that hospital was a spring that had so much water pouring out of it that it could have nourished all of New York City.

See this is why I have to put this message out there because I’m hoping one day somebody is going to hear it. We went so unconscious that instead of just taking the natural spring water that comes from Manhattan and feeding that and nourishing all of lower Manhattan with it, we poured hundreds of tons of cement into it, concreted it over and put a hospital in on top of it. I mean this is the insanity that we’re dealing with. And unless somebody calls it and says like “What in the world are we doing, this is insane!” it’s going to keep going. We’re going to keep doing this stuff.

We had a great spring right here in Southern California out in Hemet and too many people were going to get their water there so the fire department showed up and poured 100 tons of concrete into and clogged it up.

Adoley: That’s insane.

David: It’s crazy.

Adoley: Okay, I want you to talk more about super foods. Perhaps talk about some of the foods that actually are anti-inflammatories as well.

David: Okay well turmeric. Out of all the foods we can buy, the super foods that you eat, it’s hard to buy super foods in a regular grocery store. But there is one that does make it into regular grocery store and it sits there right next to the ginger and it’s turmeric.

Turmeric is the most powerful anti-inflammatory substance you can get for your money. I don’t think there’s even a close second. And it’s the orange pigments, the acute carotenoids that are in the turmeric that give it that very powerful anti-inflammatory action. And this is important if you have arthritis, if you have any kind of chronic debilitating pain in your hips for example. This is a food where you’ve got to be on this like regularly.

If you don’t have any pain at all, turmeric is an extraordinarily nutritious food. And actually if you really go into the teachings of Rudolph Steiner about these super roots, because turmeric is a root, they’re ultimately brain foods. They expand your awareness, they actually build consciousness and so there is a deeper piece of the puzzle but just beyond immediate anti-inflammatory action that these foods provide.

Adoley: Wonderful. Now in terms of turmeric then ways of actually preparing it, just kind of cooking it in food? I mean because we’re trying to eat really healthy or do you put it in liquids, smoothies? How do you have your turmeric?

David: This is a great question. Thank you for asking. I learned this from a friend of mine who’s an incredibly permaculture activist. She’s the most incredible gardener I’ve ever met in my life. And she was born with a blood disease so she has to take very specific actions every day to deal with her condition so she doesn’t have any symptoms. And one of the things she does is turmeric every which way. See that’s what she taught me, you can do turmeric in a fruit smoothie and it goes fine. You can put turmeric in savory food. You can blend it, for example, into a savory dressing and put it right on your salad. It goes great that way.

Adoley: Oh that’s great.

David: You can juice it. You can juice turmeric. Let’s say you’re into doing celery, carrot juice or something like that. Put turmeric right in there. You can take turmeric and liquefy it, blend it and then pour it onto- like we create these sweet potato- we basically take sweet potato, dice it up, then we put a little bit of olive oil, a little bit of salt and then we’ll take the juice of certain things like turmeric and put that on there and then dehydrate it. And then you create these little crunchy things that are just wonderful.

Or if you’re into using your stove that way, you can put it in your stove and cook it. That’s a really good way to use it too because you’re kind of spiking an already amazing food, sweet potato, with another super food which would be the turmeric.

Adoley: Great. Alright so we’ve covered water, we’ve covered grounding, we’ve talked about some foods that we can have, we’ve talked about turmeric. What else do you want people to take away on this call in terms of anti-inflammatory? And then I want to touch on the adrenals and people have questions about thyroid so I’ll start asking their questions.

David: Okay well I just want to get this idea and interject it in this conversation. And that is the anti-inflammatory substances that are found in these super foods and herbs are actually color pigments.

That’s usually how they show up. Which means they’re antioxidants. And that means that really richly colored foods, deep reds, deep yellows, deep oranges, purples, all those rainbow colors are important to be considering in our daily diet. And when we’re having, for example, goji berries or blueberries, we’re getting very powerful anti-inflammatory pigments into our body. And the key teaching there is a little is good but more is probably better of the fresh.

Now if you have dried goji berries and blueberries it’s going to be a little bit more concentrated. You can’t eat a ton of them. But if they’re fresh then you can eat a lot. I mean I’ve eaten as much as five pounds of blueberries in a couple days. You know that’s the only thing I was eating those couple days. I just want to put that out there because sometimes we think about, for example, our dinner and sometimes we think about, “Okay, what are we going to have? We’re going to have a salad, we’re going to have this and maybe potato, we’re going to have chicken.” You know what ever the dinner looks like.

But maybe we want to start thinking about skipping dinner. Maybe we want to start thinking, “Hey, let’s just fast on berries and just do that for a couple days.” We want to start opening that conversation up because a lot of times the inflammatory response is a response to our food. It’s a response to the foods we’re eating. And if we stop eating those foods, we will stop the inflammatory response.

Adoley: And that’s really interesting too because then you can also start seeing what actually is creating it if you have that period of time when you actually stop eating. You can really begin to feel the difference when you’re eating those foods.

We have a question from Lucille and she says, “If you had the choice between fresh super foods that are not organic and organic raw super food powder, which would you recommend?” And I guess this is a budgetary issue.

David: Okay well it’s also a very good question. Like what would I prefer? Would I prefer fresh food or powdered food? And that’s a tough question. I mean I know the value of fresh food probably as much as anybody in the world. I mean I’ve been on- I ate nothing but fresh food, no dried anything, no supplements, anything for years of my life. And no cooked food, all raw, fresh food and I get the benefit of that.

I also get the benefit of powders. For example raspberry powder or turmeric powder because the concentration is much greater of the acute carotenoids and the turmeric for example or the anthocyanins pigments of the raspberry. It’s just much greater. So there’s a medicinal effect there. And what I usually do is both now. That’s what I learned. I’ve felt like that’s really the future. Because we not only need to eat the fresh food and get those nutrients today but we also need to build up for deficits in the past, deal with what the stresses are of the moment and also build a reservoir for the future.

So it’s a tough question to answer. I mean for me personally I can live on powdered foods at this point for long periods of time if I had to. So that’s what I would choose if I had to choose between non-organic fresh food and organic powdered foods, I’d choose the powdered foods now. But maybe in the beginning I would have chosen the fresh foods because I needed it more.

Adoley: Okay but at least that gives us some options. So that’s really cool. I just want to know before I start asking questions, because there are so many, I want you to be able to say- is there anything else that you want to say in terms of the other super foods? Anything else we need to know? And I know there’s a ton of information which by the way in the Longevity Now program you just get so much more information. Everything we’re talking here is the tip of the iceberg in terms of the information that David gives you. But are there any other super foods that are absolutely critical for people to incorporate in their diet? And then I’m going to start asking some questions that relate to thyroidism and adrenals.

David: Okay well I mean we’ve covered quite a few. I’ve mentioned raw chocolate. The concentration of nutrients there is amazing as a super food and all the micro algae and goji berry and the super root from the Andes Maca and turmeric and the medicinal mushrooms. I think we have to say something for the Chinese herbs. I think we have to say something for a few of the top Ayurvedic herbs, which are really super foods. They’re not herbs like oregano or marjoram or thyme. This is like a whole category of foods that’s been forgotten. And I think we have to say something for nettles; stinging nettles.

My friends in the UK, they live off stinging nettles. And whenever I’m over there that’s what we’re onto. We are on the stinging nettle program: we’re juicing it, we’re making tea from it, we’re eating them. It’s just really a powerful anti-inflammatory. And why? Well it has the histamine reaction thing in it like if you get stung by it. So that’s kind of nature’s way of telling you like, “Hey, if you eat this you’ll get an anti-inflammatory reaction from this food.” And that’s something anybody can research. You can find out that nettles are not only anti-inflammatory, they’re hypoallergenic and they actually will help you with allergies and asthma. Something to be aware of. They’re invasive where those problems are epidemic by the way where you have great levels of inflammation and high levels of asthma and high levels of allergies. And that’s kind of nature’s way of telling you what you need.

The Chinese herbs. I want to mention about astragalus. The research about astragalus on longevity is extraordinary recent research. I think everybody needs to become familiar with this super food. It’s a root, the astragalus root. I got so into it I’m now growing it on my farm. I mean I just absolutely am enamored with this nitrogen fixing super root substance that’s not only anti-inflammatory; it’s absolutely immunologically top of the class.

Adoley: What is the best way to take that? I mean you’re actually growing the root. So what do you recommend for all of us? How do we get it and in what form is the best way to take it?

David: Well the very best form that’s out there is the FITT extract; Fingerprint Identical Transferred Technology extract. FITT of astragalus. That’s been brought to the US by Dragon Herbs and that’s just a phenomenal product beyond comprehension. I love the FITT extracts of all herbs but especially astragalus. It’s a breakthrough in herbal technology. It’s basically taking the raw herb and turning it into a crystallized powder using high pressure, low pressure a thousand times per second and then vacuum evaporating the liquid off and then you’re left with the crystallized powder which is the best herbal extraction technology ever discovered and it was discovered by the Chinese about ten years ago, fifteen years ago.

You can also do tinctures. You can get astragalus as whole pressed roots and you can just make tea out of it. I recommend looking at all of it because it’s nice to get familiar with all of it. Using tinctures, making tea, taking this stuff as powder. I do all of it and I think it’s good to have that education and the experience of using it in all those ways.

Adoley: David I just have a tactical question. Can you describe kind of a day or how you eat? What you eat. Kind of what is your daily or your weekly eating habits?

David: Intake of foods?

Adoley: Yeah. It’s like, okay, let me try and get a picture of this.

David: This is what I’ve been doing recently on Twitter and Facebook because I know people are wondering that same exact thing. So I’m like, okay, here’s what I had for breakfast, here’s what I had for lunch, here’s what I had for dinner. I’ve been doing that more. But generally my diet is basically raw foods. Things like orange, like tangerines, I have tons of tangerines today, oranges, I had a few pistachios. And then I did a chaga tea with ho shou wu in it, which is another one of my favorite herbs in the world. It’s a Chinese herb. Ho shou wu. In America we sometimes call it faux tea. And it’s just one of the most incredible herbs in the world. I got into growing that too. I love that particular plant.

So that’s my day thus far. I mean later I might do a little bit of- I’ve got some herbs in my little medicine bag over here and I may do some of those. I’m going to look at that. I’ve got my algae products, you know, blue-green algae which is the AFA, the chlorella, I might have a little bit of that for dinner. So I don’t really eat a breakfast, lunch and dinner. Although if I go to a raw food restaurant then probably what I’ll do is eat very little all day and then go there and order all their cool stuff that they have so I’m hungry enough to eat it all.

Adoley: But it doesn’t sound like you eat a ton of food.

David: I definitely don’t eat a ton of food like if you saw what I was eating. But I definitely absorb the food better.

Adoley: Right, the food that you eat. Yeah.

David: Yeah, I definitely absorb my food better than most people do. I mean I get greater uptake of it. So that’s over years and years of playing around with diet as a gastronaut. I think you know that Adoley, I’m a gastronaut.

Adoley: I love that. And I want to just share this; if you meet David in person then you’ll see- he actually agreed to give us all of his videos of the sessions, streaming video of David at his Longevity Now conferences, which is amazing. So you sort of get all of David just giving you this incredible information on so many topics.

But you will see he has phenomenal energy. He travels all over the world. He never stops, you know. He is like the ultimate energizer bunny. And that’s why I want to ask like what are you doing, what are you eating, what does your day look like in terms of how to do that.

David: It’s always different. It really is different, Adoley. I mean if I told you what I actually did the last week you wouldn’t even believe it. You’d be like, “What in the- What are you doing? Why would you do all that?” I mean the actual effort of what happened in this last week over the last seven days was so full on.

I mean I flew into LA, was here for 24 hours, drove to San Francisco doing calls all the way there. Set up for the Fancy Food show, did that for three days all day and all night driving with all the whole equipment of the whole set up of a booth, everything right in downtown San Francisco.

Get the whole thing set up, put myself up in a hotel down the road carrying all the equipment in there everyday including the computers, everything, because I didn’t want to leave it at the booth overnight and then coming out of there, packing the whole show down, driving out to pick up a Performance Gold product that’s a particular project that I’ve been working on for years, doing errands along the way, finally getting back a friends house at 3:30 in the morning, getting up at 7 in the morning, fixing a whole bunch of computer problems that I had with a friend of mine who’s an expert in that, driving out of there to a three hour meeting in Walnut Creek, then driving right from there to visit another friend of mine with her two babies just to say hello and then driving five hours through the middle of the night, getting into Ojai, California in the middle of the night, like two in the morning, getting up the next morning, driving down to Los Angeles. I mean that’s every single week it’s been like that for years.

Adoley: And so I want you to get that David is doing all of that and you can feel the level of energy, passion and engagement. And when you see him you see how fit he is. So it is really extraordinary I must say.  And you are an inspiration in that way.  I want to ask a few other questions and then I want to tell everyone who’s listening, you know, we actually are – you’re going to have to write in and if you want to have David for a Q&A session and we can persuade him to come back for a Q&A session then we can really address all of these questions.

David: You know I’ll do anything for you.

Adoley: I love you. I love you David. So yeah you have to let me know, with our speakers, who you really want to have back for a Q&A and then I’m there and I’m just feeding your questions to David. So I encourage you to get those emails going, talk on Facebook, let me know. So let’s start some of these because I’m going to give people an opportunity and then some people can actually get you live. But they have to promise to be lasered.

Okay someone wants you to talk about calcification. And I know this is a big topic. So say something about that because it certainly relates to what we’re talking about.

David: Absolutely. And it’s a big part of my Longevity Now program by the way. And the calcification has been very strongly correlated to every inflammatory condition. And there has been some research that suggests pretty strongly that underneath the inflammation, any kind of inflammation is a calcification, which means the build up of a calcium nodule. That could be everything from a bone spur to coronary plaque and brain plaque and even plaque on our gums. These conditions, not only the ones I named but also kidney stones, gall stones, cataracts, hard of hearing, tinnitus, all have these calcification components which means the calcium, the overproduction of it or the presence of it or the inability to make the calcium soluble, all has a very deep and intrinsic role in the development of inflammation and disease conditions.

So part of my approach with the Longevity Now program and just in general strategically is to bring down bad calcium levels in our body. And in fact that’s written into everything that I do. It’s always about bringing down bad calcium in our body. So right away you’re probably going, “Whoa, is this guy into calcium supplements or not?” And you’re probably going, “It doesn’t sound like it.” And I’m definitely not into calcium supplements at all. In fact calcium supplements, the latest news today, two studies have now shown that calcium supplements have been correlated to coronary hearth disease or coronary plaque formation or calcification of the heart. And this is going to be coming up more and more. Calcification by the way is the primary modus operandi of arthritis.

So the idea here is that there’s something definitely wrong with our calcium metabolism as we get older and there’s something definitely wrong with our calcium metabolism when we have a condition, a disease condition. And what is that something? And my feeling from the research is that we’re dealing with infection organisms like viruses, perhaps bad forms of bacteria like staphylococcus, certain types of staphylococcus and fungi that form calcium shells. And when we have damage to our tissue, we have an injury, those shells can actually build up plaque. Just like in the ocean. If you go and you disturb the ocean and you put a dock or a pier in, after a few years you notice that the pier pylons are all loaded with barnacles and mollusks and oysters and all different kinds of shell-forming organisms.

Well as above, so below. Maybe this is happening at a microscopic level and as far as I can tell from my research that is what’s happening. We’re being shelled up, we’re being calcified by these microorganisms that are recycling us and we have to get strategic on how we’re dealing with our immune system, hence the super foods and the super herbs in order to fight these things off.

Adoley: Great. Thank you. And thank you for that question. Now I have Bridget in Ireland and she really wants your advice on how to reverse hypothyroidism or how she can maximize her energy and well- being if she has this condition. She’s going to start grounding herself and using more water. And she’s been steadily eating an increasing amount of greens and raw food and she’s beginning to add super foods. What else can she do to actually reverse this condition?

David: Okay now let me just get clarification here. It’s hypothyroidism, is that right?

Adoley: Yeah, hypothyroidism.

David: Okay so that means low thyroid. My friend Truth Caulkins and I, we actually wrote a book on this subject and it’s called the Thyroid Health Program. And that research that Truth and I have been doing on this has indicated to both of us that they thyroid is a place in our body that will draw into itself toxic mimics of the minerals that we actually need more than the other part of our bodies.

Let me flesh that a little bit more. So you know you need iodine, definitely need iodine. In fact we’re not getting enough. None of us are getting enough. In fact hypothyroidism has been correlated to low levels of iodine not only in your life but actually for several generations going back in your lineage may have had too low of iodine. So that’s something you want to look into is getting into iodine and understanding how to utilize iodine and getting into eating seaweeds and understanding the importance of the iodine that comes from the sea.

But Truth and I both believe that the toxic imposter idea is what’s really underlying all of this problem with thyroid cancer. For example radioactive iodine, which is- what is it, radioactive iodine 131 or 134, that will get sucked up by your thyroid because your thyroid thinks it’s real iodine. That’s called a toxic imposter, a toxic mimic. And this is why we have epidemics of thyroid cancer in eastern Pennsylvania, in New Jersey, in Connecticut and New York City.

It’s because there’s so much radioactive iodine around from, what is it, Indian Point and then there’s a bunch of nuclear reactors including Three Mile Island and eastern Pennsylvania that have leaked radiation into the environment and leaked radioactive iodine into the environment.

Now I know you’re in Ireland and you’re thinking this can’t be affecting me and it absolutely can be affecting you. We’re all affected by radioactive iodine that was spewed out by Fukushima. So we want to be able to saturate ourselves with the good iodine so we don’t absorb the bad. And that means again iodine supplements are a really good idea.

I like liquid iodines. And it means eating seaweed. It also means being very, very aware of the quality of the food that we’re eating because we might uptake other toxic imposters and toxic minerals from our good like radioactive strontium or something like that. And we’ve got to make sure that we have enough goodies in our body, enough of the right minerals from super foods.

A good one, I’ll tell you a big one on the list for thyroid trouble is chlorella. I really recommend chlorella. It’s the highest chlorophyll containing food in the world. It’s 10% chlorophyll. It’s also extraordinarily high in magnesium and extraordinarily high in potassium, which drives off the body’s ability to take up radioactive cesium, which is a potassium mimic.

Adoley: So would somebody like Bridget who has hypothyroidism, what is the quantity? Where do you start? How much should you take?

David: Dr. David Brownstein wrote a great book called Iodine and he recommends working up to, not starting at but working up to 13 to 15 milligrams of iodine per day. To give you an idea, that’s easily over 100 times the USRDA, or Recommended Daily Allowance. Now he’s an iodine doctor and he’s been working with patients for years and that’s what his recommendation is now. Some people are allergic to iodine so this- again like with all nutrition, not one size fits all. These are just general probabilities and recommendations based on the probabilities. This is not going to work for everybody. Definitely all of us can benefit from eating more seaweeds. I really like kelp because kelp is pretty much the super food of the seaweed world. It’s the most nutritious, most mineral rich, it has the most iodine that’s usable by the thyroid.

Adoley: David, someone is asking about Maca because they’ve heard that it’s good for thyroid problems and menopausal women. Is that true?

David: That’s true. That’s what the research has shown. There’s some interesting developments in that area. And what it’s indicating is that even if we have a toxic thyroid with accumulated toxic debris, you have an override for your thyroid, which is your hypothalamus, which is a master gland for your whole endocrine system. And apparently that’s how Maca works. That’s what the research over the last 40-50 years of research- Popovici, Gloria Popovici down there in Peru; she’s done the most research on this over the last 40 years. She’s found out that Maca works primarily through your hypothalamus and it’s somehow able to override any thyroid problems and get your thyroid output functional so you’re producing the T3 that you need. Even if everything else looks like it hasn’t changed. For example you’re going to get your blood numbers, you know, like well I should have a thyroid problem but I don’t anymore. Your numbers would say you have a problem but since you’re taking Maca you feel good. That’s kind of what I’ve seen and that’s what Popovici has seen.

Adoley: Okay. And what’s the best form to take it in? As a powder?

David: Yeah, as a powder. Maca powder is really one of the great super foods that’s come in the last ten years. I absolutely am in love with this food. It’s in the cruciferous vegetable family so it has all the benefits that the cruciferous vegetable family provides but it has this overriding effect on our endocrine system, in particular hypothalamus and thyroid, and to some degree our adrenals and reproductive organs that’s really positive. It’s really a positive thing to add in.

Adoley: Okay great. Vascha is here from Paris. She’s calling from Paris and she has a question that I know affects a lot of women. She has systemic candida. And she’s used Donna Gates Body Ecology Diet, she’s making changes. And what she wants to know is can she use Maca or camu camu in her smoothies? She hasn’t been able to find out whether that is something that can help her to get rid of the yeast infection. She’s taking neem powder, she’s 60% raw, she’s trying to do absolutely everything. And she says she also takes Cardagic, and it’s a form of aspirin, 75 milligrams because she was a stroke victim. So do you have any suggestions for her? I know yeast infections can be a big issue for women.

David: Absolutely. And that’s one of the reasons why we’ve got to work with our immune system and we’ve got to also work with friendly bacteria. Donna Gates lifelong work has been on working with candida and healing candida and digestive infections in her body ecology diet. And one of the things she recommends is everyday you have a live cultured probiotic food.

Adoley: Right.

David: A food that has friendly organisms like acidophilus in it so that it can help to fight back the infections with your natural allies. So these friendly bacteria are natural allies that help us fight back those infections. That’s the wonderful thing about Donna’s work is that she really has gotten people to do that, you know, not just take probiotic supplements but actually eat the foods that have the probiotics naturally in them.

Another thing that I recommend here is horsetail tea. Horsetail nettle tea is really good here because horsetail’s a very powerful antifungal. Very powerful. And if you’re living in the temperate region of the world like in France, Paris, horsetails are natural medicine against fungal infections. If you lived more in the tropics you might use Pau D’arco. And not to say you can’t use that in Paris, you can use that too. Pau D’arco. I love Pau D’arco. I’m absolutely in love with that stuff. I grow it.

Adoley: She’s not allowed to take it because apparently she’s not allowed to take Pau D’arco because she was a stroke victim.

David: Okay. So Pau D’arco affects your blood and it affects the profile of your blood. So if you had a stroke that may be a contraindication. But for those of you who are listening right now who don’t have that issue but you do have a digestive infection or candida, Pau D’arco is very high on the list.

Another thing that’s really, really high on the list and would be really good for this person in Paris is chaga mushroom.

Adoley: I love chaga. Yeah. David: Oh my god.

Adoley: That’s so great. Thank you David, you turned us onto chaga mushrooms and they’re amazing.

David: Never. Oh man I mean just today to get that chaga tea in, I mean just to be running around Los Angeles and have chaga tea is crazy. It’s so great.

Adoley: Well that’s what I’ve been drinking all day because I’ve been psyching myself up for the show. I’ve just been drinking chaga.

David: That’s awesome.

Adoley: Alright so this is the last thyroid question. Kimberly had a complete thyroidectomy in 2009. And she’s heard a lot about not being able to eat certain types of veggies like kale because they interfere with the thyroid function. So her question is does it have any impact on here since she doesn’t have her thyroid glands and she’s on thyroid replacement drugs. Can she have those vegetables at all and will they still interfere with her thyroid function? So what would you recommend?

David: No, if she doesn’t have a thyroid she’s fine eating four to five servings of cruciferous vegetables a week. Let me just explain a little bit about this because there’s a lot of confusion about this. Goitrogens are a natural compound found in cruciferous vegetables but they’re much more highly prevalent in wild cruciferous vegetables like wild mustards and wild broccoli. I mean there’s wild mustards that grow all across Los Angeles. It was brought here by the Spanish and now it’s just a weed. It’s everywhere. If you were eating that everyday, that can have a thyroid suppressive effect because it’s got too many goytragens in it. If you cooked it that breaks down the goitrogens, you wouldn’t have that affect.

So if you’re going to do cruciferous vegetables and you’re going to do them raw, according to what Dr. Jonathan Wright is saying out of his facility up there in Washington and he’s done 30 years of research on thyroid conditions and alternative healthcare and endocrine health. His opinion is that four to five servings of vegetables raw is okay for people who even do have a thyroid and have a little bit of a sensitivity to goitrogens because our conventional or even our organic vegetables in the cruciferous family are domesticated, so they have lower goytragens then the wild stuff, okay. So that’s why we domesticated these plants it get the goytragens down.

So I want to point that out. If you don’t have a thyroid you don’t have to worry about this. When you’re on the thyroid replacement medications, let’s say you’re on Synthroid, that’s a synthetic. I’m much more partial towards the natural even though it’s an animal substance, the animal glandular, the pig glandular or the cow glandular, it is natural and there are some things that can happen later on down the road.

For example 20 years down the road, which is the build up of reverse T3 in your system. There can be some derivative metabolic byproducts that they Synthroid or the fake thyroid supplement that you have to take when you’ve had your thyroid removed can cause some later problems. If you’re going to go the more natural route you’re better off in the long term, which means you do the animal glandulars. This is for folks who don’t have a thyroid or are on thyroid medication right now. And that’s something I want to just point out there because there are some side effects to the Synthroid, the synthetic thyroid that aren’t immediately obvious but could become problematic years down the road.

Adoley: Great. So what I want to do, David, is give people who are live on the call to take- can we take two calls? Does that work?

David: Sure. Yeah.

Adoley: Okay. And then I really want to tell them about the Wellness conference and some of these fabulous goodies that you’ve put together. And I encourage all of you to send me emails so that you can have David “Avocado” Wolfe back and have an hour with David just answering your questions because you’ve sent in so many I can’t cover them.

So I’m just going to identify you by where you are so you know it’s you. Here’s my request because we don’t have a lot of time. Please ask a lasered question and get the answer to that and don’t go into, you know, the next question and the next question. I’m going to take three calls. Thank you.

Adoley: Barrie, Ontario. Hi, ask your question of David. Caller: Hi, how are you?
David: Great.
Adoley: Great.

Caller: I have problems with hypoglycemia and I also have fibromyalgia. I just wondered what you could suggest.

David: Great. And by the way I’m coming to Barrie. I’ll be there April 25th. We’ve got a wonderful event lined up right down there at the water so I hope I get to meet you there.

Let’s talk about fibromyalgia which has become more and more of a problem especially in Canada and it has a lot to do with vitamin D3. So you want to make sure you’re getting enough vitamin D3 in your diet. Medicinal mushrooms contain a very high amount of vitamin D2. So that can convert to D3 as your body needs it. So that’s another thing that you’ll want to look into. Raw foods has a great effect on fibromyalgia and if you do a high proportion of raw living foods in your diet and fresh vegetable juices and you get the vitamin D3, the medicinal mushrooms and then a food that I’d really recommend to deal with the hypoglycemia which is seaweeds, I think you’re going to be really well off.

Basically hypoglycemia is a pre diabetic type two types of condition and usually what’s happening is it’s- you take in carbohydrates, your body over responds with insulin, it can actually draw your blood sugar down too much and you can have a blood sugar crash. So it’s kind of an up and a down and that’s a hypoglycemia response. And that’s something that millions of people are dealing with and we want to eat highly mineralized foods in order to reverse that type of condition and get back to homeostasis. And seaweeds are a great food. I like kelp, nori, dolce, hijiki, wakame, arame, there’s so many. There’s like a dozen at every healthful store. And just check it out. It’s one of those things you go into the health food store, you get dolce and you mix it with a little bit of your guacamole or something and just taste that and you’re going to fall in love. Plus dolce is a Canadian derived food. It comes from Nova Scotia and you want to source the Nova Scotia, dolce is some of the best in the world.

Adoley: Great. Thank you very much for the question. I’m opening the line to someone in New Mexico. You’re first on the line and you have David Wolfe.

Caller: Hello. My name is Donna and I live in New Mexico. I have diabetes. Do you have any specific recommendations for diabetes?

David: Are you diabetic type one or type two?

Caller: Two.

David: Type two, okay. Well I’ve worked with Dr. Gabriel Cousens in Arizona at his facility for 13 years where we dealt with many different diabetic type two conditions. And this is what we’ve concluded about diabetes type two, it’s all summarized in a great book. Eye Doctor Cousins called There Is A Cure For Diabetes. And the work basically indicated that diabetes is not an incurable disease but is in fact a syndrome. It’s a syndrome involving a number of factors. One it’s a demineralization syndrome. So what does that mean? It means that we’re not getting enough nutrients and minerals and vitamins our food in order to actually meet our pancreases’ very high demand for trace elements and for minerals in general. That’s part of it.

Another part of it is it’s an Omega 6 toxicosis where we’re getting too much Omega 6 and we’re not getting enough Omega 3. And the type of Omega 3 that we need, there’s three kinds; there’s DHA, there’s ALA, and there’s EPA. So if you can remember Omega 3 needs three different kinds. Kind of easy to remember. DHA, ALA and EPA.

And then another factor is just taking enzyme supplements is very, very helpful, dramatically helpful. And I believe that that’s because it takes the burden off of the pancreas and the other digestive organs including the liver and gallbladder. It just lifts the burden off and allows your body to function more optimally.

And when you do those things and you basically shift your diet to live foods, which means raw, organic fruits and vegetable, nuts and seeds, seaweeds, sprouts, wheat grass, herbs, fermented foods, so cultured foods. Especially sauerkrauts and kimchees, then you’re going to see your insulin levels come down, or you’re going to see the need for insulin and the amount of insulin that you’re taking orally or injecting come down so that you can have a more moderate and normal blood sugar. And this is something that is age related. It’s definitely something that is treatable with lifestyle and with diet.

Caller: Now I didn’t get that doctors name. I got the name of the book, There Is A Cure For Diabetes. What was the doctor’s name?

David: It’s Dr. Cousens.

Caller: Thank you.

Adoley: Gabriel Cousens has done amazing work in terms of diabetes coming from a family where we have several members with diabetes. His work is extraordinary. But David really the challenge for people is first of all getting the information out that diabetes is something that you can cure naturally. And then it’s really about people making the commitment to make the changes.

Caller: I got off insulin by losing 60 pounds. But I haven’t been able to keep my sugar down. I just found Metformin. I don’t take insulin anymore after losing the weight.

David: Well first of all congratulations on losing the weight. And you’re on the right track. And I just want to direct you a little bit towards the enzyme supplements. There’s a lot to be said for the assistance that enzyme supplements can give us not only if we’re healthy, I mean they’re great if you’re healthy but also if you have a history of diabetes. These types of supplements can be very helpful.

I broke my foot in the summer and I have access to every supplement, every herb, everything, and I found that enzyme supplements actually were the most powerful single thing that I was taking. So even for an inflammation of any kind, not just inflammation of the pancreas or liver, but any kind of inflammation enzyme supplements are very, very valuable.

Caller: Is there a multiple enzyme supplement that I can just buy one bottle or do I have to just take a lot of different ones? Can you recommend any?

David: I’d recommend a metabolic enzyme type of product like Wobenzym, which is heavily researched in Europe and widely available. And there’s another metabolic enzyme product that’s out there, very popular in America and Dr. Cousens really likes it. It’s called Vitalzym. And then you may also want to consider taking a digestive enzyme supplement. There’s some great brands out there put out by, for example, Jarrow Foods has a great brand that’s in health food stores. Enzymedica is a great brand that’s in health food stores.

So there’s two types that you want to look at; metabolic enzymes and digestive enzymes.

Adoley: And David, in terms of quantity, what are the quantities that you should take when you’re taking Wobenzym or you’re taking Vitalzym?

David: It’s very brand dependent. So Wobenzym versus Vitalzym are fairly similar actually in dosage. So you would take say four to six on an empty stomach. Between meals is a good time to take Wobenzym or Vitalzym. Digestive enzymes are very peculiar to the brand. Again I just can’t throw a number out there but generally you’re taking one to three with food.

Adoley: Okay great. Thank you so much.

Caller: I’m going to order that book today. Thank you. David: Yeah, you’re welcome.
Adoley: We’re going to go to Durango, Colorado. Hello. Caller: Hello. Hello David how are you doing?
David: Oh alright. How are you?

Caller: I’m hanging in there. It’s been interesting. My question actually was related to the fibromyalgia. But I was wondering what you might want to elaborate on with also just chronic pain in general. Specifically related to a structural body injury theoretically should have chronic pain but I know it can be overcome if we handle it properly.

David: One of the things that Clint Ober is going to be talking to you guys about when he comes on Adoley’s show here is he’s going to be talking about his discoveries that when you ground directly to the area of pain, after about an hour the pain will stop. And the reason for that is that any kind of long standing chronic pain has something to do with a separation from our earth. So if you can get grounded, especially to the area where the pain is, using Clint Ober’s technology is very helpful. Then you’ll see some benefit there.

Generally when we have pain it’s carrying two messages for us. One is it’s telling us that we’re going off the road in someway. And if we really meditate on that pain and we really focus on what is it that’s going wrong, it will tell us what’s going wrong. It will specifically inform us on what the deal is. So you’re going to have to really meditate on that pain. Pain has a lot of messages and this is an area where I’ve been through a lot of that in my life. I had a very serious back injury in 1989. I was in pain for years, non-stop, from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed. There’s people listening right now, you are in the same position or you’re in that same position right now.

There is always a way out but you’re going to have to really focus on specific things and solutions for you and you’re going to really have to meditate on what is the cause of the pain. Part of an unknown cause to the pain are separation from the earth. Go lay on the beach. Go lay on the grass. Get grounding technology, get grounding when you’re sleeping at night. A zapper is a real good idea. I know that you know what a zapper is. So check out using the zapper in the particular area where the pain is.

And then you may also want to explore using some topical amazing substances. I’m a huge fan of DMSO and I think that’s really worth investigating. That’s DMSO, Dimethyl sulfoxide. There’s books written on it. Definitely get one of those books and read up on it. Phenomenal substance for joint pain. I write about it actually. It’s all over the Longevity Now program because I don’t believe there’s enough education about it. It’s one of the great discoveries of the 19th century. It’s been with us over 150 years.

And then I’m a big fan of Ormus Gold. Ormus Gold topically to where the pain actually is, is very, very interesting. And another thing to be considering as well is pain is going to be occurring where we have low circulation. So getting out and moving, especially the area that’s in pain can be helpful. We don’t want to overstress and area that’s been strained. For example I was working on Rodrigo of Rodrigo and Gabriella. You may know those two, they’re an amazing Flamenco act. And he had actually damaged his ulnar nerve of one of his arms. And in that case you don’t want to over exercise that. But let’s say it’s an area where there’s some lymphatic stagnation, getting out and moving around can be very helpful to unlock the pain.

By the way, all the anti-inflammatory substances that we’ve been naming, especially the really pigmented substance like turmeric, the berries and berry powders are naturally also anti-pain.

Adoley: Terrific. Thank you so much for that. Thank you for the question.

Caller: Oh David you’re my hero. Much love and many blessings.

David: Much love to you as well.

Adoley: Okay David I want to tell people about this what I think is just a fabulous package. I’m just so excited that we’re able to offer this to people on the call.

For those of you who are hearing David maybe for the first or second time, you can tell he is an extraordinary fountain of practical knowledge that you can incorporate into your life to heal your conditions naturally. And literally this call, for those of us who do know him, is so much like getting a thumb as opposed to a whole body in terms of the wealth of knowledge that he has. We haven’t even covered what he knows on his thumb.

And I’m really excited because we have a video compilation of all the sessions that David has done and the last two Longevity Now program. This is going to be available on streaming video so you can see him, you can hear him, you can feel his energy and you can play it over and over again so that you can absorb this information. Because as you can see there is just so much information you can write it all down. So that is something that you get in this program. I want to send you to the page because I know some people just want to see it for themselves. So go to We love David, easy to remember. so you can look along with me.

And the beauty of this is that you get the videos and this is the first time ever that it’s been available in this form. He’s never offered this and frankly I had to twist his arm and really talk to the team and say you know, “Can we have this? This is what people want.” And so we have that available for you.

And then you get the Longevity Now program. This is his signature program. The beauty of it is that everything that he’s talking about, it not only goes into it in greater depth, you’ll not only get to have videos, you get a seven CD series that really goes in to a lot more depth on these topics. But you get supplemental guides; you get calendars, worksheets and recipes. Oh my god I’m so happy to have recipes. And he has CDs and booklets talking to amazing people like Dr. Mercola. And he talks about vitamin D and he talks about the power of mushrooms. You just heard a little bit of it and you really get to hear this.

This is such a fabulous package. I know from having been exposed to David’s work, this is great that you’re able to have this. And then we also want to offer you a free ticket. David is doing his first women’s wellness conference. And David can you talk a little bit about that and who’s going to be there and kind of what motivated you to do this.

David: This is such an amazing area. What motivated me is I really got deeply into the study of hormones. And women’s hormones are more susceptible to being influenced by the toxins in our environment and I really wanted to get to a level of mastery of understanding not only women’s hormones but men’s hormones. And that eventually led me to really getting deeper into women’s health issues which I think are more pertinent today and they’re more problematic today due to the environmental toxicity and due to the toxicity that’s gotten into our food supply.

So I’ve been working with a lot of really interesting medical doctors like Dr. Cass here in Los Angeles, Dr. Patty in Florida. We’re bringing them out. We’ve got Donna Gates coming out to do this women’s wellness conference with me. Truth Caulkins is going to be sharing the stage with me which is great.


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David: And we will have chocolate there by the way.

Adoley: Oh we love it. And the other thing is David has agreed to give you guys a free ticket for those of you who want to be there. We have speakers on this series like Judith Orloff, she’s going to be there, Nadine Artemis, Donna Gates. These are women who are on the cutting edge of this work and that’s why they’re part of this series. And you actually get to listen to them, hang out with them and experience them live.

You’re going to be offered a free ticket and it is worth $119 but we do ask that you purchase the ticket so that we can guarantee that when we give away tickets that people are actually going to show up because these tickets are things that people want. So you pay in advance but when you come there you bring your receipt and you get your money given back and you get a bonus gift.

And you’ve got to understand David is a man who is constantly giving gifts away. If you go to this conference you’ll be blown away. They never stop giving you things. It is the ultimate goodie bag conference. It’s amazing. So I’m going to be there. I’m flying from Florida. I’m coming back to LA because I have to be there at this event. So I really encourage those of you who can come to California and come and hang out with us, Wellness Revolution, we’re going to have dinner or lunch with anyone who comes from The Wellness Revolution so we can meet. But this is a place where you can really get so much amazing information about your health.

And David I really thank you for doing this because women not only need this information but we as women share our information, we carry it out into our families and our kids and it’s really beautiful that you are creating this venue where we can get really healthy and then we can actually pass the word along. And I know that that’s part of your mission.

David: Yeah absolutely, pass it forward. I’m really excited about this whole conference. I’m actually very excited about this package that has been put together here, it’s great. I mean we’ve got- on that website you’re going to get the six lectures from the Longevity conference and we’ve never done anything like that before. I mean that was kind of fantastic that we put that all together.

But the Longevity Now program, by the way, is a complete reference book. It’s like a book that you have on your shelf and you think, “Oh what the heck was that again? Pau D’arco? Let me look that up.” It’s kind of like that. It’s a reference book. But it’s also a complete system if you want to apply it in that way. And then the conference, all three of these things is quite a deal.

And another reason why we have to know who’s committed to coming is because we do have a lot of free goodies for everybody and everybody gets a specific seat. So we have to ground every seat so we have to have a pretty close number. We have to know pretty closely what the number is of how many are going to be there. Right now we’re expecting over 400. That’s kind of where we’re at.

Adoley: Oh fabulous. Oh that’s great.

David: Yeah so it’s going to be great. Now that includes all the people who’ve signed up. It includes all our staff and it includes, you know, our camera people and all that. So we’re expecting about 400. And we’ve just got about room for about 500, you know, that’s about as big as it’s going to get. We want to maintain it just small enough so that we can get everybody personal attention, personal time with all our amazing people that are coming like Nadine Artemis and Dr. Cass and Dr. Patty and Donna Gates and Judith Orloff and the rest of the crew.


Adoley: It is a great deal. On that note, we could talk to David for hours and I know you all have lots of questions. Please send the emails and request. If you want David back for a Q&A he said he’ll do it. So let us know. And please let us know how you enjoyed the call.

David I want to just say, you know, I love David. I do. I love you. I find myself the more I am exposed to your work, it is so beautiful to see somebody on mission doing something that truly changes lives. And your work has changed mine. And every time I get exposed to another conference or something else you do, it takes me deeper and it deepens the commitment that I have to my own health and to helping uplift everyone else in terms of their health. And we have a huge mission and you are a big part of inspiring us and helping us get healthier and just more vibrant. So I want to say thank you, you’re awesome and we love you.

David: Thank you for your words. Thank you so much. I love you Adoley and I love everybody out there who’s listening right now. Thanks for your time for tuning in on this Wellness conference; it’s a Wellness Revolution actually isn’t it.

Adoley: It is.

David: And it’s time, right. There’s nothing more powerful than idea whose time has come, as Victor Hugo said.

Adoley: Exactly. And this year is the year when we all let’s choose to get healthy and to create optimal health and then let’s share and get the word out. So I also encourage you to invite your friends. I’m coming with a group of my buddies and I look forward to seeing you at the Wellness Conference.

Okay so now I want to once again thank David. We look forward to hearing you on the calls. It has been terrific to have you here tonight. Thank you for listening. Have a wonderful rest of the evening. Thank you all. Bye-bye.